By the way, that interview with Christie by a biased advocate named Angel borders on abusive. She also underwent a gun residue test that same evening that revealed no trace of gun powder on her hands. 1. Sheriffs Deputy Roy Pond admitted in court that he had already concluded that Diane was guilty and stopped following leads on the orders of his sergeantthree weeks after the shooting. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. This case needed to be examined more thoroughly, but the mob mentality didnt allow it. They should have stayed out of it instead of contributing to her revictimization. How could they expect a normal mother/daughter reunion between a beaten inmate whose mental health had degraded and a daughter trapped in this insanity? I watched and worried through her escapeto find her childrens real attackerthat bushy haired stranger . A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. They lied about the ballistics. The casing from the bullets exactly matched, just like a fingerprint, the bullets that Diane had in her home from her own gun which was never found. I am not biased. Messed. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. So glad you wrote and provided this information. The unreliability of childrens testimony has been documented by cognitive psychologists such as Elizabeth Loftus of the University of Cornell and others. They seem to say she was like that from the very beginning so in my opinion, it should represent a mitigating circumstance instead of a longer sentence. I saw footage of Diane herself laughing during the re-enactment of the crime. Knick never signed the premarital agreement and Diane never married him. I feel sorry for Diane too. It was the story of two troubled young souls trying to survive without a safety net. She did not have the opportunity to clean her hands with the right product to erase all traces and she was tested pretty fast, contrary to many other cases. You said yourself that the title was revealing. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. You left and you and Diane Downs spent an evening at a motel? I had never heard of this case and fell upon several videos that had me completely convinced DD was a narcissistic psychopath. He asked her for the car keys and she pretended to throw them away to distract him. When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I sayreadthis to understand accounts of people laughing at the wrong time and how it is related to their personality disorder. Let me tell you, it wasnt just the investigators and the prosecution that didnt believe herwe, Oregonians, (who ACTUALLY live here and watched what was happening) believe she is guilty. But in this case, she had no blood on her body or her clothing. At that timeand now!! I think that she has done enough time and should be released. The US is a very strange bird when it comes to crime and punishment. Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. On June 2nd, 1983, Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Foote held a hearing to take Christie and Danny away from ALL blood family (thus isolating them). She was fighting back and they did not like it. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. The grandparents were babysitting the children often and had several children who were well adjusted. Many attribute the conviction of Downs to the arrival of author Ann Rule at Downs' trial. Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? Simply because I researched them. Diane had moved to Oregon only 6 weeks before the tragedy to work in the area and have her parents spend time with the kids. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. The chief prosecutor adopting the children beggars belief! You hit the nail right on the head. Not even the gun. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention. At the very least, she should have been released by now. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. Dianes injury had to be quite painful and shewas in shockwhile driving to the hospital and accompanying the detectives to the crime scene. They were traumatized and needed familiar faces to feel safe. Another conflict of interest. It was pretty apparent during the course of this saga that the media and the state were willing to give a free pass to anyone willing to badmouth Diane. Makes no difference to me. Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. The lovely Farrah Fawcett who played in the movie Small Sacrifices was known for her epic battles with lover Ryan ONeil. I am glad that some articles remain. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? Go to the hate groups for that. . Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. 5. This happened in 1983, not 1893. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. They would have tried to reopen the case. Did she act like a average person? After completing his education and their short-lived high school romance, Steve Downs would move on to join the navy. I always welcome new information, evidence and opinions if they have a strong base and are not mean spirited, but I dont get the relevance of this comment to the case itself. I think you may be right that she is likely still locked up due to her diagnoses of antisocial, histrionic and narcissistic, but again, no one would care and this crappy diagnosis wouldnt have been bought and paid for if not the high profile nature of the case. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Instead of shooting the little kids, why didnt the carjacker/killer (CK) simply shoot DD dead and take her car? Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. He failed. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. But to convince this young and vulnerable girl to turn on her mother, they needed to isolate her from her family and work relentlessly on her confession.. They were the small sacrifices. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. Sometimes it takes until late in life for connections to be made again. It is not a hatefest and I do not wish death or life without parole on anyone. Thanks for the link. Why? Being bipolar, she had no impulse control so it should not have surprised anyone. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. She states, I did not shoot my children and I cant say I did. And she laughed at it by saying it was healthy to want to join the free world, especially if you proclaim your innocence. I will post it when I get it. (her family confirmed that she had a mood disorder, possibly bipolar 2), So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis.. If you want to defend Diane Downs, more power to you. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. I cant believe that it was allowed to happen, actually. Barry Sheck and bis crew of investigators should get involved. You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. I wanted to ask you something on this case. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. They both fainted when they saw their dead child, but it did not count. They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions. In what world is that O.K. Nobody knows but her. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). I worked for county child welfare services in Colorado for a decade. While Rules book is biased, it was a look into the view of those who wanted justice for those children, wether you agree w/ their conclusion or not, that was their goal. Ann Rule promotes her books as true crime stories so to this day, viewers believe that the book and the movie titled Small Sacrificesdocument the true story of the Diane Downs case; in fact, it is a mix bag of truth, falsehoods, interpretation and plain fiction. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted. They never tried to reunite them with family. But the fact that the prosecutor called her a deviant sociopath in court without any assessment became another nail in her coffin. She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. I tried to contact you by email but my email wouldnt acknowledge you email address. Same with her brother. Weve become friends. Brewer changed his mind. I removed the dumb and crass part of your comment. She did not fit in and was now anxious to assert her independence and live her own life. Diane was just 18 years old but determined to get married. Yes, Im sure this stranger wanted to kill her kids but only wound her, who, coincidentally, had a towel handy neatly folded on her wound. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. and so on. As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. . No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? I do not declare her innocent. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. Our laws are not written that way. A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. If the media was anything at the time it was favorable towards her. Yet in their mind, she was already guilty. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. This case flew under my radar so to speak because it happened before my time. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. There were a few calls and on one occasion,Christie said They just, they knew that, you know, that she did it and I should say that she did it. When asked if she thought her mother did it or someone else did it, she replied, I dont know if she did it or someone else did, cause I dont know. Then Angel says: They told you that was the right thing to do, huh? Christie responds, But like the person, my attorney, and thats who Fred is, that Im living with, hes the guy, he works for me.. She wrote to the governor several times after being dismissed coldly by Hugi and the system. I also grew up in as time of the most infamous case in Australias judicial history: Lindy Chamberlain and the dingo stole my baby. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . As a result, joint legal custody which means parents share in the decision-making 1 is becoming the default decision in many family court systems. But if you compare the time she was seen by the witness to the timing of her arrival at the hospital, it seems to indicate she went pretty fast, butnone of it was explained ordemonstrated properly. I think that looked at through a more objective lens, many aspects of the Downs case are highly questionable. I think that you are right about certain things not being ignored. Any thoughts on that? I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. This coercion came to Dianes attention in January 1989 (Appendix 39). Page 41 of case history. He could then have initiated the licensing process to foster and then adopt the children. Guilty or not, we should know better than to use the justice system as a psychic tool when theres not enough evidence. ), years in solitary confinment Whats wrong with us?! He freely admitted HE decided to ask for a divorce on his birthday without consulting Diane, who was out of town It was pitch black outside. why didn't steve downs get custodylagu sekolah minggu bahasa inggris Opinion Fox News's blackout of Jan. 6 points to a hidden crisis for Democrats The not-so-shocking revelation that Fox News will not carry House committee hearings about the insurrection is yet another sign that right-wing media will go to extraordinary lengths to shield . No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. Thank you Lise. The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. She even became a surrogate mother to make money and provide two parents the opportunity to have a child. But there is forensic evidence pointing to Diane Downs. The endorsement was so strong, in fact, that some interpreted it as a roundabout trade request. Johns Hopkins said lockdowns reduced deaths by 0.2%. Is it the one you tried to use? ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown. lol. They were put in an impossible situation. Just similar stuff.and that I guess, makes it easy for me to see how that song could of fueled her up.never underestimate the power if a song..what feels intense and exciting to you, may not to another, but shoot, anytime I hear pink floyd run like hell.takes me right back 1991 in the heat of my chase..for me, I got the answers I wanted from 89 when my friend said that about the Duran song and it involved in that case. Women who were somewhat normal begore, get pregnant, have the baby, then drown it a toilet, kill or beat the the baby in the first year..shaking or other means..its less often then notbut better believe these type of cases are reported constantly now on social media. It was a harrowing, shameful miscarriage of justice. You are wondering about the question why didn't steve downs get custody but currently there is no answer, so let kienthuctudonghoa.com summarize and list the top articles with the question. That is the reason effective trial counsel challenges the competency of a nine-year-old child to testify in a court of law. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. After parting ways, the couple would soon meet again in Arizona which would end up in them reigniting and reconnecting their fling. I will take a screen shot of the sketch. This is to avoid the conflict of interest that we read about above. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. Do you remember about two days after that the two of you signing a lease on the apartment? A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. The last time I checked, it is my website and if you find it tiresome, no one is inviting you to stay or read the content; which you evidently did not read anyway. It sounds like Diane was trying to tell her to stay away from bad influences. (I know that wasnt brought up this time but it usually is.) In fact, if appropriate family is found, termination is not required. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. http://www.dianedowns.com/Dr.%20Jamison%20affidavit.pdf. Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions. If the adult can show capacity and willingness to provide care, love and nurturing to the children, then there is no legal reason to prevent them from becoming Foster Carers. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. How.. they attacked him. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. That doesnt make it true. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. As for how to answer this question,,, seems like he is assuming guilt and because of this my parents or me or my brothers and sister, our uncles and aunts were not considered because of an unproven allegation Does he truly believe this is ok??? ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. In reply to Kit She could not have been shot twice in the back while sitting up and have the bullet pierce her body to end up under the floorboard of the passenger side. Many individuals associated with the the child welfare system, for one reason or another, choose to adopt children. Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. Yes, I usually answer the emails I get about the blogs. It has nothing to do with the facts of the case. I have nothing to gain and I am not making up songs and dances about a unicorn. She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. On her way to the hospital,she was followed by someone who said she was going slow, but Diane said she was driving fairly fast. Click to listen to podcast explaining the gun test, Dianes mental condition and the lack of forensic evidence. How asinine. After asking her to have an affair, he kept vacillating between his wife and her. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. Thats the point. She managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. I lived through the media coverage. Nobody had any reason for a conspiracy of this magnitude over a literal nobody. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. It always feels like punishment at all costs. The two mental disorders that cause excessive talking are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia. They went through the process which demonstrates a certain level of commitment in itself. It was a fairly new science at the time so thats all it took to find him not guilty. If you shoot at least 6 inches from a victim, you see what is around you in the car. This is a scenario pretty hard to believe, but as they say, reality can sometimes be stranger than fiction. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control. The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. But if the blogger is arguing that the blog is balanced and objective, thats patently untrue. Caught in the act, Hugi declared that Christie only said that because she was pressed for an answer. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. Surprisingly, Fred Hugi actually looks quite different. So appropriate! Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. (Appendix 81, page 1466). There have many times children have had to testify against their parents so the fact that many cant believe it was ever allowed should honestly research more. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Then ask yourself if thats how you want your son to grow up. On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. I would say so. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. Speculative? Thanks Kit, It is a bit of a mystery to me that not more people see that if we removed the high profile name and the accompanying media storm, the case was no slam dunk. The ballistics, gun, speed at which she drove the car, her demeanor, etc. If appropriate family members could not be found to take placement of the children then family friends are the next step. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php Moreover, he apparently told her that he did not want children and this statement alone would seal Dianes fate. It appeared rigged: Rigged? They rarely are, especially in the US. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. As usual, Diane had resorted to the soothing comfort of a pregnancy to pretend life would get better; she would create a nest around her, come hell or high water. A reader told me that I should have a website with all the comments. Dianes daughter started saying that she did not know who shot them right when she got adopted. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? Two jurors had voted that Diane was not guilty of attempted murder or first-degree assault, but endedup voting to convict her of murder. If I was of a mind to manipulate the Board by giving voice to the words they want me to utter, Id have sold my soul two decades ago when the lies would have benefited me and my youth passed long ago. Q. And how the letters became so bizarre, paranoid and psychotic that she told Diane to stop writing her. She did it. I cannot be more transparent than that and integrity was one of the missing pieces of the entire case. The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of. It simply states the facts of the case. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. Her children were obviously more severely injuredbecause being captive in the car while a shooter aimed at them gave them less of a chance to wiggle out of the situation than an adult outside the car. You cant possibly shake off all the gun powder residue and avoid all the blood. Diane said that Cheryl was laying down on the front floorboard with the passenger seat pushed back. Maybe dad relinquished, it sounds like he may have. Not giving you free reign here. Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. The scene described in Small Sacrifices with little Christie hooked up to a machine and her pulse accelerates because she is terrified ofher mother is doubtful and subject to interpretation. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. (This is why Foote was assigned the case. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. this is your 2nd quote which contradicts the first one .. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. 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