R474 It's because the Georgia Bureau has experience with child killers and lots of resources at their disposal. With investigators remaining tight-lipped about the unsolved investigation and years since a Delphi murders update, several true-crime media veterans and former investigators have tried to pick up some of the slack as far as public interest in the case over the years. one committed with an uncommon/makeshift weapon. What a sick motherfucker this one is. The Innocent Project has been successful in overturning some murder convictions, mostly because of new DNA evidence that points away from the defendant. Anyone walking over it would be moving slow and with hesitation. As far as I've heard. The story in the video (Libertys father fingered two meth dealers and this was retribution) makes more sense.and would account for the positioning of the bodies (sexual/religious) as a huge fuck you to the father and the community as a whole. A brief audio clip, which police have always said was just a small clip of what they have from Libbys phone, was released on Feb. 22, 2017. He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. Klein, who is currently in police custody, was charged in August 2020 with 30 felonies, including child exploitation, possession of child pornography, obstruction of justice, and synthetic identity deception. Investigators say the person used the profile to communicate with underage girls to solicit nude images, get their addresses and try to meet with them. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. Im watching now and r138 is right. train, but he is clearly guilty of another crime and i really hope they have some forensic evidence to tie him to the girls murders. In cases where there were found to have been wrongful convictions, she said, 51 percent involved detailed, but false, confession. There is a debate about when the guy got the tattoo and whether the tattoo is actually of the guy's late mother or Linda Blair's face from the Exorcist. OP/R21 the thought of there being 40 minutes of audio/video footage is truly gut-wrenching to even imagine. Sick, sick, sick. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. The cops could have taken the images and recording from the cloud. I've never understood why the girls didn't call 911. A sketch is a sketch and thats really important for everybody to understand," Carter said. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. There had to have been a sexual component, whether they were sexually assaulted or not. I think the best bet is to keep watching the video and listening to the audio. I think an officer would have a holster, even a hidden one. WEST CHESTER Delphi Lawrence had been dead a little over a year when Chester County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas A. Pitt Jr. called the case of I think it's quite plausible that the guy was walking carefully because of a rotting bridge. Listen above to the History Uncovered podcast, episode 24: The Delphi Murders, also available on. There have been texts on Reddit for years now. Will slip up and give a detail only he knows. People could not believe it, Lawrence said. I read the 2 Reddit forums about the Delphi Murders. Such a smart little girl. If they had met up with more people, he would have aborted. Ive walked across the high bridge myself. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. "To have enough presence of mind to activate the video system on her cell phone to record what we believe is criminal behavior about to occur, there is no doubt in our mind that she is a hero.". R107 That is revolting. Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? People latch onto any clue (even ones that fall apart if you give it a second thought) and hound the police with them, even ones that have been already addressed (HE HAS TO BE OLD! Does LE already know who it is? A good case can take time to develop. The victim was found a few 100 yards from the lot. R503 Definitely. Who is looking at who, and why do they think the person being looked at is the killer? ^. "We dont release it to the media because then everyone and their brother would know, and its common to get false confessions from mentally disturbed people. For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? R29 Sorry, I wasn't getting at that part. Sadistic beyond words. The state police must be terrible. You cannot know if your truthful answers can link you to a crime without an attorney doing their job for you - they will find out exactly what the government wants to ask, give the attorney copies of any prior interviews or statements you made, perhaps provide videos of you, discuss with the attorney exactly what they are looking for or expect you to know or say and with that information the attorney will discuss your answers with you beforehand. No matter how distant, do you have the man walking on the bridge, videoed by Libby, on any other video? While I understand the video makes it look like an older man, as others have indicated the bridge has very large gaps. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. In this case, we gave out audio and photo evidence from [Germans] video to help locate [the perpetrator]. Both girls had open caskets but had to wear scarves. The chief Delphi murders suspect appears to be middle-aged, with reddish-brown hair. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. I also tend to believe stuff released from family members, although I understand people may feel differently. I meanor they couldve been told by someone who knows the non public information. Hello and thank you for registering. He will kill again, probably in another state. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. The meth revenge could also explain why the girls werent sexually assaulted. The workplace of double murder suspect Richard M. Allen, on Oct. 31, 2022, in Delphi, where girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German were killed in 2017. But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. She also played Mrs Johnson, the leading role in Willy Russell's Blood Brothers, for four years at London's Phoenix Theatre. Someone in the comments did an overlay showing that it pretty much matches Libby's photo. I'm sorry, a family member thinking someone is not the perp is only as good as having a good idea who IS. If that is true (and I dont know if it is true) AND he has a tattoo with eyes that are bleeding.that seems like too much of a coincidence. The only two options arent they did it and they know who did it. The context surrounding the images, which were stills from a moving video, has never been given. Just for the sake of argumentis it possible as someone mentioned upthread that it could possibly have been someone they met online that they were meeting up with to hang out? But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. This whole story gives me chills. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? Shins. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. Ridiculous to argue over whether it was/was not of Libby specifically. Did they stop recording or was it all CSI could salvage? Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. I thought if I gave a statement, they would still have to prove it. A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. So were trying to keep the details close to our vests.. And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. But even if he is connected to local police, that wouldnt stop the FBI from moving in on him, right? Also.its such a small town. I hope he is the one who did this. How many podcasts and investigative TV miniseries has it generated with, basically, no new information or new investigative leads? Several feet behind her, a blurry figure can be seen behind a tree off to the side of the trail. "Catching this guy is my main goal in life right now. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. All that I could get my hands on. More than two years later, on April 22, 2019, Indiana State Police released a new piece of audio that is a slightly extended version of the initial clip and includes the word Guys followed by Down the Hill.. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. tragic. I'm sure the Police know more. And these leakers and other insiders AFAIK any anon person claiming such status online is not to be taken seriously . that not true here? I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. Or, more likely, it was the cause of death that got them involved. Most searched terms about Delphi Lawrence on the Internet are Delphi Lawrence age, Delphi Lawrence wiki, Delphi Lawrence photos, Delphi Lawrence lover, Delphi Lawrence instagram, Delphi Lawrence facebook, Delphi Lawrence family, Delphi Lawrence salary, Delphi Lawrence height, Delphi Lawrence bio, Delphi Lawrence income, Delphi Lawrence house, Delphi Lawrence latest news, Delphi Lawrence tiktok, Delphi Lawrence dating, Delphi Lawrence musically. Try a different tactic or call it a cold case. during the one-year press conference marking the Delphi murders, Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer, Physical Description (i.e. Also, it looks as if he is carrying weapons, or a possible "kill kit". Another theory is first sketch (old guy) was taken from witnesses and the video. Theres a tin working on the case as well as FBI. It came out later he didnt and it was just a young teens mind trying to process survivors guilt and incredible trauma. There are lots of close-ups of his jacket and I see an outline of a gun in his right pocket area. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). Pedophiles identify with him. Absolutely not. Is anyone here going to ask him a question? Meat packing plant worker?) God, they have to catch this piece of human garbage! But I waiver between about 6 different POIs. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. cause of death still a mystery In addition to any mention of a second suspect, also omitted from Allen's probable cause affidavit was any detail of how Libby and Abby were killed . That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? Please click here to update your account with a username and password. "The sketch isnt a photograph. I dont think you could stop yourself from screaming if threatened with a gun. I have no feelings of hatred towards him, because I dont know him, or what the circumstance are surrounding the case, he said on Friday. "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. Some of the theories here are REALLY nutty and reaching. I have read they were sexually assaulted and that they werent. R110 I think that's the point. It's crazy. February 13, 2017. my leg is just not letting me heal on this crime. The police mention DNA evidence. And interestingly he is web savvy. That would be the only reason they might drag their feet. WebDelphi Lawrence (Delphi Cajetana Holzman) was born on 23 March, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK, is an Actress. (Sic?). Isn't part of the id problem a lot of guys look like h? The local police say the case is still active. And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. One of her other prominent TV roles was around the same time, in 1961, where she played the countess in episode 6 of the TV historical adventure series SirFrancisDrake ("The English Dragon"). But he didnt. I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. The reward for information leading to the arrest of the Delphi killer is over $250,000. I guess its because it happened in broad daylight, out in the open. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. The police later identified his car in other snatch-and-grab kills of opportunity. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. They seem to show a person leaning against a tree? That Robert Lindsay guy was a huge creep. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. i really hope they have some DNA evidence in the Delphi case. This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. He said he would take her home, Garnett testified. And what if the BG was wearing some kind of disguise? Maybe they are close to getting this creep. Kegan could definitely be covering up other crimes (he's been arrested for child porn and other related charges so that wouldn't be crazy) but the dates of the backdated FB posts, the wiping of his phone etc. She graduated to lead roles but almost exclusively in "B"films. Maybe it's a cop and that's why they are being so reticent. It is only when we mature into mid to late teens that the concept of making our own decisions develop. If you consider the chief suspect is in prison, I can see them wanting to build their case. causes.". I am assuming the killer was able to force the girls off the path and "down the hill" by either brandishing a gun or pretending he had a gun in his pocket. !| Case Discussion & FACT CHECKS!). R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. I think he planned to but they ran and he killed them in anger. I really hope they have other evidence, however it has to be acknowledged that his answers are also an old investigative technique used to rattle the killer and hopefully cause him to panic and ultimately make a mistake that reveals who he is by implying that evidence such as DNA may exist. In the drone pic it looked as if one body was posed with her shirt over her head and an object lying between her legs. It was noted that the new recording with the additional of guys may have been spliced - iow, it may not have been part of the order to go down the hill, but part of a later utterance. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? r40, you don't know what they do or don't havea bit silly to call law enforcement "incompetent" without knowing a damn thing. You will lose all power. Barely over 5ft tall? Could have happened in a lot of places unless you're watching your kids 24/7 (unrealistic, and this is still a very rare thing to happen). A. Did one or more than one set of footprints lead searchers to the area where the girls were found? Per the leaked texts by the uncle who found them, Liberty got the worst of it and was the one who was left naked. I always thought this was lucky-psycho related. 1. The audio isn't clear. Wish they had a chance to push the fucker off the bridge. Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. The stories vary from one of the girls still alive crying for help while the other lays dead next to her, the killer moving the bodies into disturbing poses or the killer violating one of the girls who was still alive and the body of the first girl that was killed. I question the credibility because the "graphics editor" is wearing Lee press-on nails while pointing to something in those grainy pictures. There were some very iffy pics that the person claimed was one one the victims. Then, there is the sound of a gun cocking and one of the girls screams, "Oh my God!". He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. I think it was a stranger. The pouch/fanny pack that the Bridge Guy was wearing may have been a deer kill kit that contained a knife and other things. Therein lies the problem, r415they must not have any DNA evidence. The people who are obsessed with this case (perhaps not ALL of you here on DL) remind me of those nuts in the Hotel Cecil Elisa Lam documentary r193, so we should only execute the ones who personally piss you off? I hope the bastard didnt just die from covid, getting away with murder. READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. I remember doing all kinds of dangerous stupid shit as a teenager. Smith Moving Co., Durnell told the jury on the fist day of testimony, under the questioning of Assistant District Attorney Robert Gawthrop III. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. They released one of the only pictures from the Delphi murders in July of 2017, a full five months after the fact. That suggests posing or staging the scene for later masturbatory purposes. [R460], I don't understand this either: "Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer." 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