We now have three separate LE source both reporting dolls at the crime scene. After searching, All rights reserved. Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? Abby Williams and Libby German went missing at the Monon High Bridge in Delphi on Feb. 13, 2017. This is why its so hard to get girls this age pregnant. He stood there for a little bit, he looked around and didnt see anybody or anything so he thinks he started walking towards the High Bridge, he was just about to where it forks and he ran into an older gentleman that was coming from the High Bridge and he asks him Did you see a couple of girls there? and he said No, but there's a couple down underneath." - Becky Patty, Timestamp 22:47,Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/help-isp-identify-this-man-who-was-on-the-walking-trails-monday-near-delphi. The group in Pennsylvania only does cold cases and delphi isnt cold according to delphi LE. [5], This would have to have been sometime after they were officially reported missing on February 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM. makes me wonder if they're combining a profile of DNA found at the scene and a best guess at his facial features based on isotope and NASA's rumored enhancement of the bridge images. Initially law enforcement released stills from this video of the suspect. If you look at the 2019 press conf, Carter says parked at the CPS/DCF [Dept of Children & Families] building. On Indiana states social services website where they list addresses to Dept of Welfare locations and Child Services locations by county. ", "A Delphi police detective searches the scene near midday Tuesday where two bodies were found near the banks of Deer Creek.". After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. I sure hope so. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had inside sources. They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime. So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague. Also thankful for the efforts of podcasters and reporters was Libby's mom, Carrie Timmons, who told The U.S. Sun in a statement on Monday night: "I am so very grateful for all of the loving support and kind words from friends, family, and even strangers. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' I would really like to get some input from you, since you have been doing one heckofa job. Multiple news agency were in this news conference on the morning of Wednesday, February 22, 2017. Hes a suspect, as Mr. X is, as so many people have been. But the goal is the same, from our hearts we want Justice for Abby & Libby. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." Perhaps the sister saw him while dropping them off and he debated killing her? They dont even know if there were two killers. At the entrance of the trail? Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. The leak is from a very high-ranking person on that team. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. [6] The bridge was a common backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures and wedding photos. Strongnasolabial folds and hooded eyes still present in Figure A. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. Anyway, off my soapbox. Police revealed they believe their suspect may be hiding in plain sight. This persons appearance could look different today if he has grown a mustache, beard or let his hair grow longer or cut his hair shorter than depicted in the sketch. This is what they told us: But now we have a shocking new revelation. First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. A female witness "C" chose to publicly comment on a Facebook post written by a family member of the victim discussing how she was on the trail that day shortly after the girls. Pretrial hearings for Allen are slated to begin on January 13 at 9am. Knowledge of the witness sightings is mainly given by the family of the deceased and through social media rumors. Allow me to explain. Obviously none of this happened, but BG may have wanted to stage it to look like a murder-suicide as of a sick joke. Officials offered few new details at the press conference Monday and did not disclose how the teens were killed or the evidence against Allen. and FSG saying he saw arguing couple. Although the Delphi murders remained unsolved for over 3 years, the Indiana State Police department have not called their investigation a cold case. On August 14, 2017Indiana State PoliceFirst Sgt. Their bodies were found the following day in a wooded area a short distance from the Monon High Bridge Trail. Let me put it this way, and I do respect your work Robert even if we have different POI. Im really interested in reading your Delphi stuff. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you inviting me to the group. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details . Most recently, Chris Lambert, the creator and host of the Your Own Backyard podcast, was credited with playing an instrumental role in bringing Paul Flores to justice for the murder of Kristin Smart, a student who vanished without a trace in 1996. On Reddit someone said Gray Hughes got a huge tip in about a poi and he said that it had to be him and someone in the Reddit comments said that its only a few days until the person he thinks did it is arrested. Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. Footprints can casted and molded by forensic teams. Further complicating this matter is the existence of two sketches of two entirely different people. and our So I yelled down and told them that. Two days after the new sketch was given, a news bulletin was released to clarify the relationship between the two sketches: Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points about the Delphi Murder Suspect Sketches. 923. ba. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. . Tietoja laitteestasi ja Internet-yhteydest (esimerkiksi IP-osoitteesi), Selaaminen ja hakutoiminnot Yahoon verkkosivustojen ja -sovellusten kytn aikana. 2. Whether law enforcement is sure the DNA they have is the definitively the offender's is unknown. There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. An article from WTHR says audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. Now, in an interview with The U.S. Sun, ine and Kevin admitted that even they were "caught off guard" by the arrest of Richard Allen last week, who has now been charged with both of the girls' murders. The gag order was to be effective until the 1/13/23 hearing on moving the trial. She said his eyes were dark and evil. It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure. Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address:abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. He has the same first name and last name as Mr. X. [5]. It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. No, no CP was found at JBCs place. [11] It is possible to get a rough estimate of where the bodies were based off of placement of crime scene tape in the woods. DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. Timestamp 8:00Video of Indiana State Police Press conference, April 22 2019, 5. . Jul 17, 2017 Updated Sep 28, 2017. yup, plus it's popping up just as interest in the case is potentially waning, adding a fresh boost to it. The autopsies are completely sealed as this is an active investigation. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. If there was an eye witness on the trail that day who saw BG, maybe they didn't come forward because the information also places themselves near the crime scene? I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? Online there are supposed text messages detailing the manner of how they were found allegedly sent bya family members ex boyfriend. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. Yes, a gun was used in the crime. Source:Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points Indiana State Police Bulletin. Abby and Libby failed to show up to the meeting spot to picked up. Click here to see the April 24 2019news bulletin referenced on the left. Havent updated the list in a damn 10 years and addresss is on it still. The girls disappeared Feb. 13, 2017, after going for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail. Fsg said he saw a couple down by the bridge. are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Family members of Liberty German and Abigail Williams listen as Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announces the arrest of Richard Allen for the girls' 2017 murder Oct. 31, 2022. Holeman tells us investigators have more audio from Libbys phone, which was found with the girls at the crime scene. Reading a transcript of the press conference (? Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. On the 15th, Indy Channel wrote an article saying: Indiana State Police also want to talk to anyone who was parked at High Bridge Trail Head on Monday, February 13, between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. Visitors Online 1,235 Visitors Online 1,235 Home. Thank you, dear. [7]. As he looked up to see what it was, that is when he saw them, said Libbys grandma, Becky Patty. Law enforcement has never spoken publicly in reference to specific named witnesses or sightings. DELPHI MURDERS: INDIANA MAN REPORTEDLY IN CUSTODY IN CONNECTION WITH 2017 KILLINGS OF 2 GIRLS, Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. It almost seems you could knock them up just by brushing up agains them. Your POI and my POI are the same person and I honestly didnt know half of what you have listed here! He was never charged with any wrongdoing and later died in 2020 from Covid-19. Allen, who has entered . Cheyenne) Is this where you are thinking that the items came from? This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. I'm sooo thankful the witness came through. The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his, Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his, We also believe that this person is from Delphi currently or has previously lived here, visits delphi at a regular basis or works here. "So when we check the phone records, the police call was about 5:20, -Becky Patty,Timestamp 29:00, Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, 7. Here is the link if interested, http://www.wpta21.com/story/35903873/witness-aided-in-sketch-of-suspect-in-indiana-teens-deaths?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_ABC21_WPTA. I thought I read that the witness was on the same set of trails that day as bg. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. "But once Friday rolled around, that was the first time we heard the name, Richard Allen. Hence LE is refocusing onto the Young BG sketch, who looks like both the young man seen a the bridge that day and the catfish boy used to lure the girls. . ine said. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first womans report. Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . failed . Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. And Libby had been there many times before. Is it possible that the doll or stuff toy came from the old welfare building or CPS building that was torn down? So theres no input from law enforcement at all in the generating of a sketch, other than my presence as the artist.". At every crime scene, you are going to have DNA. Anotherhaunting photowas posted by his wife onFacebookwhich shows the Indiana man smiling excitedly in front of what appears to be one of the two police composite sketches of the murder suspect. The composite sketch was created after state police received new information from witnesses along the trail. Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police have been seeking information relating to vehicles in the area during this timeframe. Were seeking the publics help to identify the driver of a vehicle that was parked at the old CPS/DCS welfare building in the city of Delphi that was abandoned on the eastside of county road 300 North next to the Hoosier Heartland highway between the hours of noon to five pm on February [13th] 2017. Knowing that the sketches are of two different people brings up the question, why did the investigation switch focus from their first suspect to another? Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. [6], An article is published by WLFI which interviews Mike Patty who says The cellphone has been pinging around town and here there is a cellphone tower but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. He said the notion of two killers is still in the arena. He also said, This has been an active theory since the first day of the crime.. "We want to find out what will his case look like going forward. It prohibited the attorneys, LE, Court staff, coroner, and family, from commenting publicly or to media, including on social media platforms. The Monon Railroad was built through Carroll County from 1879 to 1881 and the first train went over the High Bridge in January of 1881. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. "Doug Carter made it clear at the press conference yesterday that the investigation was not over, and he would not rule out the possibility of more people being involved. It was Child Protective services. It is likely that all social media correspondence with the girls has been analyzed by the multi-agency task force. Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. The quality and relevance of these footprints is unknown. I thought Hughes said the person he heard about had never been mentioned as a POI? How do I log in? At this press conference, the police also released a short video clip of the suspect obtained from Libbys cell phone. Perhaps Catfish Boy and Young BG are two different people. "So, it seems like there's a lot more to do now, basically figuring out who this guy is and how he's linked in with everything. THE sister of a girl killed in the Delphi 'Snapchat murders' has recounted the final words she exchanged with her late sibling before she was tragically murdered alongside her best friend in an Indiana woods. So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. The Indiana State Police superintendent explains the reason for the different sketches. Its long been suggested that BG used his sons photo, and talk of a father-son kill team was actually the first rumor about the killer(s), dating to 7 PM the day they were found. Whether the released video and the released audio coincide in time is unknown but seems unlikely. Fear As a Freezing Agent, or Why Introverts Have Such Low Rates of Violence, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. So we have more evidence, albeit the third-hand source we have never talked to. There are a number of childrens graves there, and there were dolls scattered around some of those graves. Attorneys representing Allen said they got evidence from prosecutors Monday and expect this to take four to eight weeks to go . A team discovered the bodies of the girls in a wooded area near the trail, about a half-mile upstream from the bridge, New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 12. WDRB article Families of teens, 20. The families of the victims have spoken about a man that Derrick ran into when he arrived at the trail at roughly 3:14pm. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. "I think the media is can be a very good partner in cases like this to keep things moving along," where investigations may have otherwise stalled," she added. All rights reserved. On another thread on the sub for the case someone said one of the girls uncles or something is dating this guy JDD's (who really resembles him) sister so maybe he would know the girl. Email tips to rebecca.rosenberg@fox.com and @ReRosenberg. Arent you a member of the private group? The person in the sketch released April 22nd is described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. Gull set aside June 15 and June 16, if needed for a bail hearing for Allen. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. As we noted above, one girl suffered a grievous wound to the throat. We recently obtained a photo of Stepson X. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. The bottom half was covered by the white scarf. 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